Detroit is known for many things: Motown, automobiles, decline and rebirth.
Our thanks to Miller and DaCapo for sharing this with the Longre community. There must be bands like this here. It was supposed to look cooler than to go in like P. Mark Norton Ramrods, 27 vocalist, journalist, Creem magazine : We were trying to figure out what was next. It sounded like it was through a phone, but I was getting all excited, you know—this sounds like what I like. In the summer of I went to New York City. I saw the Dictators.
Such as Cinecyde. We got a place.
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Perfect for a bar owner. Loves that, right? We talked about them a lot in Touch and Go. It was like new wavy stuff, but still it was new music, and we covered new music, and it was probably just to fill up the s. It was our rehearsal place.
I had quit high school and started living there and experimenting. I was so naive. There were blurbs of the Sex Pistols, and I thought the Traitors and the Sex Pistols were in a race, and whoever won would be kings. Gary Reichel Cinecyde, vocalist : They basically hired the bands and marched them down to one of the Birmingham salons to get the punk rock haircuts.
They had a slick flyer to give to club owners.
The three bands will all tour. And they had bigger aspirations than that. They wanted to get them ed. We were poor. I was working at a 7-Eleven. up. Don Was: Yeah, my dad was a counselor at the junior high in Oak Park. We got him to book the Traitors and the Romantics just to have a chance to get out and play somewhere.
It was disastrous. We got to play, but it was a huge incident for my dad. When they announced it on the radio, 6 Mile and Telegraph became a parking lot. Bill Kozy Speedball, guitarist : I was real young, and my pals from Warren Avenue took me and to the Silverbird when the Romantics did a surprise show.
Beers were 25 cents. It was this rowdy rock crowd, but things were different than that.
Mike Murphy: People kept saying someone will discover Detroit at that time, like they did in New York and Los Angeles, and it never happened. Then the bands imploded or were erratic, and it was kind of strange that nothing ever happened out of that whole time, the first wave of punk rock.
Bands were going to New York and playing shows and showcases. Katy Hait Sillies, vocalist, photographer : These bands from other cities would come in—Teenage Head from Toronto, Skafish from Chicago—and we were just as good as those bands. We joked about it because Detroit was such an underdog. Kay Young photographer : The music was really good, but no one hit like the Ramones or the Cramps did because Detroit was not New York. There were no record label scouts here. The record covers always looked like shit.
Local Bookstores Amazon. They could actually afford to live in the East Village and build a buzz. Same thing in LA. The thing you have to remember is, what big bands came out of LA? The first punk rock bands were all ed to independents. It was out of New York where at that time the record capital was, and if you were to make it, you had to go and live in New York and do it. Also, anybody who really made it—from the biggest pop star to the rock-and-roll guy you think is totally underground—their ambition is through the roof.
The bands that did do something had heavy management, people who were willing to invest money in them to get them out of Detroit, like the Romantics. I was in business with another guy, and he took good care of everything, from what our security would look like and so on. But again, we were under the radar. We would have grown exponentially if the media in Detroit would have been supporting what we were doing.
People kept saying someone will discover Detroit at that time, like they did in New York and Flirt Detroit Mi opening hours Angeles, and it never happened. As the middle child, we were fucked anyway. No one was interested in what we were doing. Everyone looked everywhere, but not in their own city or state for the latest trend.
I know where the Ramrods stand: we were and are the lost children between generations. The Ramrods set the stage for those who would know how to navigate the entire mess—hardcore. We never had the torch in the first place.
Bless you guys. My wife-to-be and I had gone to a wedding, and we were dressed super-normal. So that night we were getting some funny looks, and finally she went to the bathroom and I heard this ruckus. Come on, fuck with Barbie! I go out to look at girls, and there was no girls there. Hardcore was too negative. I like the look of the Gothic scene—not so much the records, but the Gothic chicks. But they never tried to be cool with us. The front was full of new. The back was where the older people stood wondering what was going on.
Actually it went backwards. A high school teacher of mine was sitting around with me and my twin brother after school doing an extra credit project. We went to school in a pretty shitty area, Benedict at Outer Drive and Southfield, so we were not having a whole lot of fun. The Catholic schools back then were about as good or bad as public school—no real difference.
We grew up at 6 Mile and Greenfield. After the great white flight the house across the street was empty and a moving van pulled up one day and we were all happy: wow someone is moving into that house. The next day we woke up, and all the bricks were gone from the house, so we had to stare at a tar-paper shack for the next year. We all had paper routes for the News and Free Press.
The News route was an afternoon route, and it was brutal because on Friday, they all knew you were out collecting.
It was crazy, man. The guitar player was wearing a wedding dress. I was still a virgin at the time.
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The hardcore thing was just deliberately nihilistic. And homophobic as fuck. Which, I mean—rightfully so—rubbed people the wrong way. And the big rock bands were also the enemy, and then the bands that wore their tiger-print pants. Alice Cooper. Anything else that claimed it was punk rock in Detroit was just a joke. These little boys called the Guardian Angels moved in, which kind of turned into an abandoned building in the middle of Detroit where the crack industry started.
It was the basis for New Jack City. As time goes on, people get greedy, you know, and all the cousins start moving in. And the thugs.
Everybody in their right mind moved out. He lost all his money and moved to Puerto Rico. Negative Approach practiced there on the third floor in a ballroom.